Devils v Steelers. Sun. Game Thread

[Navunik]

On the main site Matsos says he wants the Voth footage reviewed by the league. He seems to think it was potentially worse than the Ashley Tait incident last year. Can anyone comment or is it just sabre rattling to spice up future encounters?

[John123]

I'm surprised no one has mentioned this.....

http://sheffieldsteelers.co.uk/news/archives/index.html?article_id=2522

Was it really that bad?

[John123]

On the main site Matsos says he wants the Voth footage reviewed by the league. He seems to think it was potentially worse than the Ashley Tait incident last year. Can anyone comment or is it just sabre rattling to spice up future encounters?

Beat me too it!

[Finny]

I'm surprised no one has mentioned this.....

http://sheffieldsteelers.co.uk/news/archives/index.html?article_id=2522

Was it really that bad?

IMO - No.

Just to put things into perspective -it wasn't unprovoked.

A couple of minutes earlier Silverthorn was kneed badly midice. It's been claimed it was Desgenais who did this (although I haven't got the gamesheet on my to check). Whoever it was, was lucky to escape with just 2 mins.

Also a couple of minutes earlier, Steelers were on the PP. After play was stopped, Desgenais went up to a Devils defenceman (possibly Jarvis?) and slashed him across the legs - followed by a couple of cross-checks across the chest. He then tried to goad the Devils player into a fight, but with no fighters on the ice and the devils already short of a Dman, Jarvis wisely skated back to the bench. Desgenais then skated back to his own bench, mocking the Devils as he went past them, skating badly as if he had his tail between his legs.

Final minute, Voth lines up Randy. If he had connected with him it would have been charging but he dodged out the way. Voth then chased after him, slashed up and dropped the gloves. Very one sided fight. I think the ref tried to get them to stop fighting but they didn't until they were eventually separated. When they were, I thought I saw Desgenais throw a late punch and Voth reply with a couple too.

Sorry Steelers, but it's a bit hard to take the morale ground when you have a player doing all that beforehand.

Sharp is hilarious. He finally got on the ice for his first shirt and got Hartwick to agree to a fight. Sharp threw 2 punches which missed, Hartwick threw 2 punches which barely made contact 2 - and then for some reason Sharp dragged them both to the ground before Hartwick could land any proper punches. Considering the fact he had been on the ice doing half-laps warming himself up before the fight as if he was taking a penalty shot - it was all a big anti-climax.

[Navunik]

yeah, assuming what you say is true, do you really expect us to believe that none of your lot had done anything to Dagenais or any of our other players to elicit that response from him? He's not exactly known for being a dirty player. It's the incident that really matters, not what went before it. Though i don't doubt there were some exchanges, I do doubt that it was just Dagenais deciding he wanted to %£$"!* people off.

edit: haha as if %£$"!* is censored!

[Gazzathedevil]

yeah, assuming what you say is true, do you really expect us to believe that none of your lot had done anything to Dagenais or any of our other players to elicit that response from him? He's not exactly known for being a dirty player. It's the incident that really matters, not what went before it. Though i don't doubt there were some exchanges, I do doubt that it was just Dagenais deciding he wanted to %£$"!* people off.

edit: haha as if %£$"!* is censored!

So its ok to Say Dagenais was reactiong to something we started, but its not ok to assume Dagenais started something? how does that work, what is he the ark angel gabriel?

[Navunik]

yeah, assuming what you say is true, do you really expect us to believe that none of your lot had done anything to Dagenais or any of our other players to elicit that response from him? He's not exactly known for being a dirty player. It's the incident that really matters, not what went before it. Though i don't doubt there were some exchanges, I do doubt that it was just Dagenais deciding he wanted to %£$"!* people off.

edit: haha as if %£$"!* is censored!

So its ok to Say Dagenais was reactiong to something we started, but its not ok to assume Dagenais started something? how does that work, what is he the ark angel gabriel?

I don't know who started it, but I doubt that the chain of events leading to the fight started at the point that has been suggested. As I say, he's not exactly known for his dirty play.

[Hardy boy]

Great result, really chuffed! And a shutout for Jody!! What will the Jody knockers talk about tonight, bet they are gutted. Maybe they would have
expected a goal from him at the very least!!!

You make a very valid point regarding the "Jody Knockers". As far as I am aware, and I am one, it is his inconsistency that people see as his greatest downfall.

Well done for "highlighting" this fact.

I too blamed jody for saturday night and will hold my hands up, but it doenst change anything. Still dont think he's the one for us. But il give him credit where its due. Well done jody, more of the same please.

[Gazzathedevil]

yeah, assuming what you say is true, do you really expect us to believe that none of your lot had done anything to Dagenais or any of our other players to elicit that response from him? He's not exactly known for being a dirty player. It's the incident that really matters, not what went before it. Though i don't doubt there were some exchanges, I do doubt that it was just Dagenais deciding he wanted to %£$"!* people off.

edit: haha as if %£$"!* is censored!

So its ok to Say Dagenais was reactiong to something we started, but its not ok to assume Dagenais started something? how does that work, what is he the ark angel gabriel?

I don't know who started it, but I doubt that the chain of events leading to the fight started at the point that has been suggested. As I say, he's not exactly known for his dirty play.

But then neither is Jarivs who Dagenais slashed and cross checked, so how do we sort that out?

[Koop11]

I'm surprised no one has mentioned this.....

http://sheffieldsteelers.co.uk/news/archives/index.html?article_id=2522

Was it really that bad?

Not at all and I'm sincerely not being bais either.

You’ve got to love Bob, Simms, Matsos and whoever has instigated that report. I think the Steelers will be clutching at straws if they think the Elite League board will do anything about that. I’m not sure exactly how the Steelers “almost lost Randy for the year" and where "he was very lucky to escape a serious injury”. The guy took a slash and had a scrap. That was honestly it.

I do think the Devils threw their toys out the pram a little which I was disappointed about but in fairness to Finny he has explained exactly why Voth specifically went after Dagenais. Dagenais left the same knee out on Silverthone and he did the same to Gerad last year in, funny enough, the opening weekend of the season. When Voth saw this again and after Dagenais was getting a little stick happy with Jarvis then he felt he had to do something. I do feel there was an element of give our first sell out crowd something to cheer about as the game itself was poor. Both sides looked extremely rusty.

A good road win for the Steelers after a disappointing result at home the night before. As already mentioned, both teams will need to improve dramatically to put a title challenge together.

[steelermatt1kk]

I'm surprised no one has mentioned this.....

http://sheffieldsteelers.co.uk/news/archives/index.html?article_id=2522

Was it really that bad?

IMO - No.

Just to put things into perspective -it wasn't unprovoked.

A couple of minutes earlier Silverthorn was kneed badly midice. It's been claimed it was Desgenais who did this (although I haven't got the gamesheet on my to check). Whoever it was, was lucky to escape with just 2 mins.

Also a couple of minutes earlier, Steelers were on the PP. After play was stopped, Desgenais went up to a Devils defenceman (possibly Jarvis?) and slashed him across the legs - followed by a couple of cross-checks across the chest. He then tried to goad the Devils player into a fight, but with no fighters on the ice and the devils already short of a Dman, Jarvis wisely skated back to the bench. Desgenais then skated back to his own bench, mocking the Devils as he went past them, skating badly as if he had his tail between his legs.

Final minute, Voth lines up Randy. If he had connected with him it would have been charging but he dodged out the way. Voth then chased after him, slashed up and dropped the gloves. Very one sided fight. I think the ref tried to get them to stop fighting but they didn't until they were eventually separated. When they were, I thought I saw Desgenais throw a late punch and Voth reply with a couple too.

Sorry Steelers, but it's a bit hard to take the morale ground when you have a player doing all that beforehand.

Sharp is hilarious. He finally got on the ice for his first shirt and got Hartwick to agree to a fight. Sharp threw 2 punches which missed, Hartwick threw 2 punches which barely made contact 2 - and then for some reason Sharp dragged them both to the ground before Hartwick could land any proper punches. Considering the fact he had been on the ice doing half-laps warming himself up before the fight as if he was taking a penalty shot - it was all a big anti-climax.

What game were you watching?

The countless number of charging penalties Devils got plus the extra they could have got meant the game was bound to get out of hand and quickly, the ammount of times jody had the puck covered for a devils play to come flying in on him for your defence to try and get the player away, the boarding calls Thompson missed, the slashes Thompson missed when Aubry had to puck covered from Devils defence on Steelers, The high sticks Voth did to Munn on the helmet to entice him.

Plus the kneeing incident was Hewitt.

Voth got "blog on" his team was down 2 - 0 it was a boring game untill this incident they had a full house in and needed to entice the crowd to make them come back for more.

A nasty unnessesary heavy slash to Dangers calfs followed by a punch to the back of the head! Danger faced Voth and offered him out, Voth took up the challenge then even whn the linesmen were trying to break the fight up when voth pinned Danger to the boards Vopth was still flyuing punches over the linesmen ontop of Dangers head!

Definetly needs looking into

Thought Thompson had a mare, and this was proven in the last 2 minutes when the fights broke out, Sarich fought MacIver, however they were both sent to the dressing rooms but when penalties were announed both players were given no penalties? how could Thompson have missed that

Sharpey was brilliant he was itching to get onto the ice whilst the two fights were going on only for Matty to grab his shirt keeping him sat on the boards, when he finally came onto the ice his gloves and stick were off in his hands before the puck had even dropped, then hushing the crowd he is a character.

As for the sell out crowd, a decent attendance however! at a Sheffield Steelers v Cardiff Devils you know theres going to be some heat (especially after last year), so why sell out the away block with Devils fans! although on this occasion the Devils fans were well behaved and these fans were quiet throughout the game this easily could have got out of hand because of the final minutes, and if it was the fans at the other side of the building that had sat there it easily could have with the jibes the Steelers fans were getting from the floor, i agree great to sell out the arena however there were odd seats around the arena including quiet a few opposite the away block with the same view, why not stick fans there? Again this isnt a jibe at the Devils fans just management i think an away block is for away fans, well that my view anyway, this also left Steelers fans standing on the stairs to watch the game unless they wanted to be surrounded by Devils fans as most fans were seperated with their seat numbers.

Well done Steelers though we picked up from a upsetting result Saturday night and put in a good defensive performance leading to our first 2 points, lets go chasing that title!

[steelermatt1kk]

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[Finny]

At the moment the Devils can only sell tickets for the 2013 seats, and not for standing. So every person standing had actually bought a season ticket - hence why there were so many 'empty'.

Whilst Bob was in charge we got nowhere near a sell out and so we couldn't prove to the safety officer that we could handle any crowd bigger. Now thanks to the excellent marketing of the new management we have this sellout and so we should hopefully be able to apply to have the capacity increased so that we can sell standing tickets too.

I agree Thompson had a poor game. He missed quite a few calls on the Devils and quite a few on the Steelers too. I thought a couple of the charging calls were harsh (I thought 3 steps and whack was ok?) and that Jody should have been called a couple of times for high-sticks/slashing rather than just the once he was.

Steelers look solid if not spectacular. They are very good defensively as I expected and Jody didn't really have much to do after the first 30 mins. Devils were tired after a minimal pre-season and players only flying in towards the end of the week.

Steelers won't be as exciting to watch as Belfast but they will be very hard to beat most of the time, and they will be there or there abouts come end of season.

[Koop11]

VIDEOS

Voth v Randy

Sharpey - not great quality

Please ntoe these arent my videos

Some decent footage there. Well done.

[vicrocks]

Great result, really chuffed! And a shutout for Jody!! What will the Jody knockers talk about tonight, bet they are gutted. Maybe they would have
expected a goal from him at the very least!!!

You make a very valid point regarding the "Jody Knockers". As far as I am aware, and I am one, it is his inconsistency that people see as his greatest downfall.

Well done for "highlighting" this fact.

I too blamed jody for saturday night and will hold my hands up, but it doenst change anything. Still dont think he's the one for us. But il give him credit where its due. Well done jody, more of the same please.

I'm a "Jody knocker" and the fact that he had one good game doesn't excuse his inconsistency in other games. When he's played well, i'll applaud him but the fact of the matter is that he should be consistent. I understand that everyone has their off games but Jody has a lot more than he should.

Sorry folks but i'm not going to get too excited over the fact that he had one good game. I don't like knocking him but i need more than this to change my opinion.